@kaniini I suspect a lot of the hate for Pleroma comes from two sources:

- Historic "political division" between GNU Social and Mastodon as in terms of leftie vs alt-right (which wasn't even GNU Social's developers' doing or desire really), some folks from that space moving to Pleroma and thus to a lot of folks Pleroma being mentally branded that way
- @lain is the fediverse's class clown and recent events have lead many people to associate that kind of irreverent humor with undesirable stuff

@cwebber @kaniini @lain Can you suggest some material for me to read on the background of the GNU Social / Mastodon politics?

@aidalgol @kaniini @lain Urgh, no I don't know of a good writeup, but here's the tl;wh (too long; wasn't here):

- StatusNet written and the base of most of GNU Social (and generally written and had a community that was very lefty, but occasionally left-libertarian) but StatusNet closes shop. GNU Social is the continuation.
- "chan culture", originally jokingly problematic (arguably joking doesn't make it less racist or sexist), becomes "ha ha only completely serious"

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@aidalgol @kaniini @lain

- many chan'ish alt-right folks kicked off of twitter, start to move to GNU Social instances. (Plenty of GNU Social instances not happy with this notably!)
- Mastodon comes along, supports OStatus (GNU Social's protocol)
- leftie, largely LGBT folks *also* leave Twitter, for the opposite reason! Many flock to Mastodon.
- Unsurprisingly, plenty of folks start to interpret this as GNU Social vs Mastodon as alt-right vs left, which is unfortunate

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@aidalgol @kaniini @lain

- Mastodon starts moving from OStatus to ActivityPub. Some of the squabbling spills over into that. Awkward
- Pleroma begins using ActivityPub very actively, and that's when https://octodon.social/@cwebber/100239388817712633 begins to apply IMO

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Anyway, that's my own personal interpretation and read of that history...

@cwebber @kaniini @lain Things like this kinda show how project management (including community management) has more to do with a project's success than the code quality. (Probably not a universal truth.)