Imagine making a movie about Cuban drug kingpins in 1983 and thinking 'hmm, I want someone a bit less weird and conspiracy-theory minded than the guy who did 12 Angry Men and Serpico... I know, I'll get Oliver Stone and Brian de Palma.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarface_(1983_film)#Development
Also now I finally realise that Miami Vice was Scarface: The TV Series
in the same way that Star Trek was Forbidden Planet: The Series and Doctor Who was The Time Machine: The Series
@natecull We watched "The Cage" the other evening, and the "Forbidden Planet: The Series" bit is even more accurate than I remember. Though it's a nice touch --- maybe an accident, maybe Roddenberry being clever, or maybe Roddenberry trying to be "clever" --- that the part of the plot that looks most directly lifted from Forbidden Planet turns out to be an illusion. The Talosians show the crew what they want to see.
@natecull Also, at times, the film /Manhunter/ (1986), the first adaptation of a Hannibal Lecter novel, feels quite a bit like /Miami Vice: The Movie/.
@bstacey Yeah, the main Forbidden Planet things that I see in Star Trek are:
1) a heroic and heavily armed Earth-based space navy who are post-WW2 nuclear USA in space
2) weird mystery colony planets all over, with mad scientists and/or godlike magitech aliens
3) the Weird Mystery usually not being fightable with those weapons, but needing human psychology
The whole setup's a nuclear parable. 'We've finally achieved unlimited power... but can we use it wisely or will we destroy ourselves?'
@bstacey compared with, eg, JJ Abrams Advanced Star Trek Substitute, which is
'aaaaaagh! foreigners! and teachers! and rules! all the jocks who laughed at us nerds at school! kill kill kill! shooty shooty shooty bang bang!!!!'
ie, modern Star Trek (and also modern Star Wars) is more about America's relationship to its nerd pop culture (and mandatory homage to War on Terror propaganda) than a debate about the role of the military in science two decades after a huge war that smashed the world
@natecull My description of /Star Trek/ (2009) at the time was "extruded space-action-movie product".
Combining your points 2 and 3, /Forbidden Planet/ and TOS share the idea that the highly advanced extraterrestrial civilizations are flawed in some social or psychological way that is meant as a warning about, or at least an exploration of, our own cultural problems. The Krell destroyed themselves because they did not appreciate the monsters of their own id, while the Talosians devastated their planet by war and then decayed into indolence in their fallout shelters.